tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post8375628510135974027..comments2024-02-24T19:53:29.491-05:00Comments on Bad Girl Blog: You Decide: Paris Hilton or Mae West?Joyce Hansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03118325396178171635noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-54411939783364462722008-11-01T06:45:00.000-04:002008-11-01T06:45:00.000-04:00You are such a tease asking this question when it'...You are such a tease asking this question when it's so obviously Mae!<BR/><BR/>Back in the 30's too, not after the 60's, women's lib and many a bad girl musician broke the boundaries. Paris is bad, but she is also, for all her wealth, banal, and that means boring. She may be bad, but she's more like a spoiled brat without any character. yawn<BR/><BR/>Mae on the other hand... you just have to google "Mae West quotes" and you can find over 100 quotable quotes from the dame. <BR/><BR/>The thing most people do not know though is that although from our perspective the 30's seem as though they must have been tame, being that much closer to Victorian England than now, it isn't really the case in many circles. They didn't call the 20's roaring for nothing. Especially certain circles in Paris and other sin cities were really wild. <BR/><BR/>Production houses (maybe because of government censorship on these dames?) clamped down during/after the war, and then we go back to the demure house wife and have to liberate all over again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-11472077205405495912007-10-25T16:54:00.000-04:002007-10-25T16:54:00.000-04:00It is. It's often a family entertainment, there an...It is. It's often a family entertainment, there and here. People always hire dancers for weddings, circumcisions etc. I've danced for many family events, and they're usually my favorite things. Thanksfully, no circumcisions yet.dancerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05166922266387858934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-71356152593351131102007-10-25T12:22:00.000-04:002007-10-25T12:22:00.000-04:00Nice, Leela. Fifi may know she's a bad girl, but j...Nice, Leela. Fifi may know she's a bad girl, but judging from the video, it looks like bellydancing is something the whole family can enjoy.Joyce Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03118325396178171635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-23526581221877498642007-10-25T00:25:00.000-04:002007-10-25T00:25:00.000-04:00Maybe the bad girls you seek no longer shine so br...Maybe the bad girls you seek no longer shine so brightly in America. But look to the famous dancers of Egypt for some classic bad girl inspiration. I speak, especially, of Dina, she of the bike-shorts costumes, the big, slow hip circle, and the just-short-of-orgasm-or-total-mental-collapse facial expressions. I also speak of Fifi Abdo, to my mind one of the greates Egyptian dancers (that I know of, anyway). My teacher once described her attitude as, "I know I'm bad, but don't you wish you were me?"<BR/><BR/>Dina, in an outfit that makes me say "Eek!" but that I secretly love:<BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7L1abP1a0I<BR/><BR/>young Fifi, dancing with the amazing singer Ahmed Adeweya:<BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-RfpVL6Ll4<BR/><BR/>I say they are classic Bad Girls because they're doing what they do with total commitment and pleasure, in a society that condemns them as prostitutes because they are professional dancers. I have read that Dina is also a lawyer. From the few interview clips I've seen of her, she comes across as utterly dignified and self-posessed.dancerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05166922266387858934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-40047614073697268942007-10-24T13:50:00.000-04:002007-10-24T13:50:00.000-04:00Several years ago, my 13 year old daughter was giv...Several years ago, my 13 year old daughter was given an assignment in her English class: Choose a famous woman living today who represents the Greek goddess Athena, and write about her. It was nearly impossible to think of a woman who wasn’t famous merely for her appearance, and especially her sexuality – i.e., Paris, Brittany, etc. And those who were famous for accomplishments were also demonized by the media: Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, etc. <BR/><BR/>I have never forgotten that moment, together with my daughter, when I thought about how the media treats women. The most celebrated women are destroyed. Ever since that day, I am most certainly a supporter of the Bad girl as you envision her, Joyce.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-37751409401386759902007-10-24T11:30:00.000-04:002007-10-24T11:30:00.000-04:00I know, I know. It's all a big set-up. Mae West is...I know, I know. It's all a big set-up. Mae West is obviously hotter and badder than Parish Hilton.<BR/><BR/>And yes, Mae definitely wrote plays--"Sex," about, well, you know, sex, and "The Drag," about drag queens. Did you know she styled herself partly on the drag queens she met during her vaudeville days?<BR/><BR/>In 1932, after writing and performing in a few more plays in New York, Mae headed to California for a screen test--at the age of 39. Her first role was a smallish part in "Night After Night" with George Raft, which Dave and I watched recently. <BR/><BR/>"Do you think she's sexy?" I asked Dave.<BR/><BR/>"She would be if she didn't talk that way and strut around like a stout little man trying to puff himself up to look bigger than he really is," Dave said.<BR/><BR/>I guess Dave just doesn't get Mae West's appeal. The female impersonator appeal.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, they say that during the filming, Mae rewrote all her lines and gave direction on the camera pacing so she could work her sex-magic. Raft later said that she “stole everything but the cameras.”Joyce Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03118325396178171635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-51336362266647132632007-10-23T21:59:00.000-04:002007-10-23T21:59:00.000-04:00Joyce, this is such a brilliant blog, but such a n...Joyce, this is such a brilliant blog, but such a no brainer question. Mae West wrote plays, directed movies.... didn't she write a novel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-83053785762939657102007-10-22T14:28:00.000-04:002007-10-22T14:28:00.000-04:00When the Guardian interviewer asked Mae about her ...When the Guardian interviewer asked Mae about her prison sentence, she said: "They said I could pay the fine, but I decided it would be more interesting to go to prison. They told me I had to wear prison clothes, but I said I was bringing my own underwear. I wore my silk underwear the whole time."<BR/><BR/>What a great attitude! She was a bad girl, all right.Joyce Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03118325396178171635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-15791918335157449262007-10-20T14:37:00.000-04:002007-10-20T14:37:00.000-04:00Well this is a no brainer, much like Ms. Hilton!!!...Well this is a no brainer, much like Ms. Hilton!!!!<BR/><BR/>Mae of course!!!!!!Lisannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03249500003559750141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-70224459157598764022007-10-20T07:25:00.000-04:002007-10-20T07:25:00.000-04:00A bad girl is a clever creature who climbed the la...A bad girl is a clever creature who climbed the ladder of success wrong by wrong, as Mae West would say.<BR/>Paris Hilton, born with a silver spoon in her mouth, has very little to say that is worth remebering. Maybe the silver spoon gets in the way of making sense. . .? Paris Hilton could never write a blog that is this clever either.<BR/>- - MaeWest.blogspot.com - -Mae West NYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10429691535206284217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-48935358561542877622007-10-19T19:57:00.000-04:002007-10-19T19:57:00.000-04:00Joyce, how ridiculous! That's like comparing Tols...Joyce, how ridiculous! That's like comparing Tolstoy to a telephone book. Paris and her halfwit pals don't have the remotest hope of ever being bad girls. <BR/>(LC).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23668207.post-72230133404306582902007-10-19T15:37:00.000-04:002007-10-19T15:37:00.000-04:00Oh, dear me, Joyce....Mae all the way. She was sma...Oh, dear me, Joyce....<BR/><BR/>Mae all the way. She was smart and sassy.<BR/><BR/>Paris is just, well, not.<BR/><BR/>XOUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08479666094724828227noreply@blogger.com